Thursday, August 16, 2007

Iraqi time machine

Everyone likes to think about some things that are not possible, like what if I can fly or run across the entire city in one second or be invisible. Also having a time machine would be good. But now in Iraq there is an Iraqi time machine, or maybe two of them. One takes an Iraqi back in time when there is no government and just people killing each other and also no electricity. The other one is in the protected offices where the politicians just made a new alliance of four groups – Dawa, SIIC, Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) of Talabani, and Kurdistan Democratic Party of Barzani. So it is like back in time after the first elections when many Sunni Arabs did not vote and these groups were most powerful. It is a two year time machine.

Is it good? Maybe it is. Now you have only four groups and maybe they will fight less than ten groups or however many. And some groups like Sadr group who never can decide what they are going (killing Sunnis or being united with them, hating the government or being ministers) are gone. Some terrorist supporting groups are gone also.

Is it bad? Maybe it is. Iraq will need to somehow be united and now the Sunni Arabs, who are a big minority, are not in the alliance. But if the major Sunni Arab politicians want to support terrorists then they shouldn’t be. But if the Sunni Arab people think the government does not represent them, then maybe they will support terrorists more.

Is it not good or bad? Maybe it is. This government and other Iraqi governments after Saddam have not made Iraq secure and the US forces have not made Iraq secure. If the government cannot bring security and electricity, then maybe it doesn’t matter who has the minister posts or seats in the protected parliament building. Sometimes they say that the Sunni Arab politicians if they are in the government then terrorism will decrease, but I don’t know if they even can control the terrorist groups who are killing so many people. Maybe it does not make a difference.

I think we will see.


bg said...


not sure if this will help you, but it
may give you hope, as it did me.. :)

Iraqi attitudes continue to shift toward secular values


["Iraqis have a strong sense of national identity that transcends religious and political lines," Moaddel said. "The recent out-pouring of national pride at the Asian Cup victory of the Iraqi soccer team showed that this sense of national pride remains strong, despite all the sectarian strife and violence."

In the March 2007 survey, 54 percent of Iraqis surveyed described themselves as "Iraqis, above all," (as opposed to "Muslims, above all" or "Arabs, above all") compared with just 28 percent who described themselves that way in April 2006. Three-quarters of Iraqis living in Baghdad said they thought of themselves in terms of their national identity, as Iraqis above all.

"This is a much higher proportion than we found in other Middle Eastern capitals," said Moaddel, adding that such high levels of national identity may counteract tendencies to split the nation based on sectarian differences.]

i believe the majority of Iraqis are resolved
to live in a "free & democratic" society.. :+:


Anonymous said...

Nothing is forever ...
Right now the most important thing
is getting the violence
way way down ... then over time
The legitimate Sunni can gradually
become more and more involved.

But I have seen no downturn in the violence directed at Iraqi civilians even after Maliki made
concessions almost a year ago ...
in fact it got worse ... their is obviously a hardcore Baathist element which must be exterminated.

If the Sunni politicians have no control over these terrorists
then it does not matter if they are in the government or not ...

If they have authority and can order an end to the killiing then they should have done it ....

How can people sit in parliamemt
as legitimate political figures
and yet be involved with these
truck bombers ... they need to
end it or be killed off

bg said...


this is a very interesting development..

"There is more uniting us than dividing us"


[Iraq's Shiite prime minister carried an appeal for unity to Saddam Hussein's hometown Friday and told Sunni tribal chieftains that all Iraqis must join to crush al-Qaida in Iraq and extremist Shiite militias "to save our coming generations."

Nouri al-Maliki's bold sojourn into Tikrit — a city once pampered by Saddam, its favorite son — underlined the prime minister's determination to save his paralyzed government from collapse and prevent further disillusionment in Washington as voices grow for a troop withdrawal plan.

The sharp alteration in the government's political course — a willingness to travel to the belly of the Sunni insurgency and talk with former enemies — suggested a new flexibility from the hard-line religious Shiites who hold considerable influence over al-Maliki's views]

["There is more uniting us than dividing us," al-Maliki told sheiks in Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad. "We do not want to allow al-Qaida and the militias to exist for our coming generations. Fighting terrorism gives us a way to unite."]

[He owed his premiership to the backing of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, nominal head of the Mahdi Army militia that has cleared entire mixed Baghdad neighborhoods of Sunni residents.

Throughout his first year in office, al-Maliki sought to protect the fighters from U.S. raids on their Sadr City stronghold in eastern Baghdad. He ended these safeguards this spring after al-Sadr loyalists quit the Cabinet because al-Maliki refused to set a timetable for an American withdrawal.]

and albeit not as many Shi'a.. Iraq has more & more sheikhs from both sides of the isle (so to speak) joining together as one to fight the evil scourge that's plaguing Iraqia as well as therest of the planet..


bg said...


imo, this too is welcomed news.. :)

New Coalition Is Reached To Rule Iraq


[The deal, which would align two of the three major Shiite parties with the two major Kurdish parties, is notable in part because it excludes Sunni parties, including the Iraqi Islamic Party led by the current Sunni vice president, Tariq al-Hashemi. A statement signed by Prime Minister Maliki, as well as leaders of the other major factions in the new coalition, said that they would be able to command a majority in the 275-seat parliament in Baghdad.]

["Anyone who is not in the coalition is not in the coalition by their own choice," he said. "The members of this coalition have gone to great lengths to convince them to be part of this group to end this paralysis and it is unfortunate that people think they can hijack the political process. We must move beyond all or nothing."

The fact that some political parties opted not to participate in the government could increase the chances for reconciliation down the road. Among the parties left out of the deal are both the Shiite faction loyal to Moqtada al-Sadr and the Sunni Islamist bloc known as Tawafuq. Both of those slates include parliamentarians and government officials that have worked openly with terrorists who have attacked Iraqi security forces and American soldiers, not to mention Iraqi civilians.]


Trajan Octavian Titus said...

If I had an Iraqi time machine I would have routed Saddam's forces back in 1990 and not allowed them to escape back into Iraq and then supported the Shia and Kurdish uprisings.

Iraqi Mojo said...

That would have been great, tot.

doubting thomas 65 said...

And when the shia and kurds began to kill each other, then what?

Uouo Uo said...

جزاكم الله خيرا"

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